【忖度ゼロ】スタレとゼンゼロやって分かったけど鳴潮ヤバいわ【計150時間プレイ感想】- After HSR and ZZZ… Wuthering Waves Is Insane! –

【忖度ゼロ】スタレとゼンゼロやって分かったけど鳴潮ヤバいわ【計150時間プレイ感想】- After HSR and ZZZ… Wuthering Waves Is Insane! –

Honkai: Star Rail and I played Zenless Zone Zero, but Wuwa is insane (in both senses) Oha Ienashi! Half a year ago I was destroyed by a sexy jellyfish lady and made my gacha debut with Wuwa “No matter how you look at it Wuwa is way too strong, but since I thought ‘Chinese gachas are amazing,’ I obviously have to learn from the industry leader” So I thought The industry leader miHoYo launched the “HoYoverse” brand games commonly called “Hoyoverse games” Specifically Honkai: Star Rail and Zenless Zone Zero, and after trying them I realized again that Wuwa’s differentiation strategy is insane So I noticed I’ll introduce what I thought was insane For those who’ve played Wuwa or Hoyoverse games Whether you “agree” or “disagree on that point,” please comment Even if you’ve only heard the names “So that’s how they compete with each other” Please listen while eating tangerines Let’s get right into it “My thoughts on Wuwa’s differentiation points” There are three, but before that let me give you some context To be honest Right after playing Wuwa, before playing Hoyoverse games I was looking down on Hoyoverse Because the impact of first touching Wuwa was so huge and when I glanced at Star Rail just looking at the graphics it didn’t seem that impressive you know? (harsh words) Same with Genshin (harsh words) So the reason Hoyoverse is at the top now is just benefiting from first-mover advantage and if you just look at the game content Wuwa is equal or even better, right? But it’s not good to judge without playing so I’ll at least play Hoyoverse I guess With that feeling I tried Star Rail, which has a good story reputation and ZZZ because I was attracted to the sexy octopus lady That’s how it went Star Rail I caught up to the latest patch ZZZ Season 1 is about to end I’ve played about 100 hours total And after playing, I realized Hoyoverse is amazing I’m sorry I was wrong Star Rail has amazing worldbuilding and story
(check the description) ZZZ has amazing motion and character feel
(I’ll make a separate video after clearing) “See, I played Hoyoverse and it wasn’t that great” “Wuwa is amazing” “Wuwa Wuwa Wuwa” That was supposed to be the script, but “Wait… Hoyoverse… is amazing…?” I was made to realize And because I experienced Hoyoverse’s strength paradoxically Kuro Games (with Wuwa) breaking into this lineup stands out as insane Now I’m like “Wuwa is amazing” And since the opponent (Hoyoverse) has ultra-high quality there’s no way to win with a direct approach Kuro Games knows this so they properly “differentiate” from Hoyoverse and establish their presence But beyond that, they’re aiming to take down Hoyoverse I bet they’re looking ahead to that That’s what I thought So I’ll list three differentiation points First one “Money” Well, “monetization pressure” Wuwa’s is clearly lower
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Between Star Rail and Wuwa The character and weapon gacha system overview is like this In terms of expected value for pulling featured items it’s like this Just looking at characters, Wuwa is over 10% lower
((94-82)/94×100＝12.8%) It’s a system that makes it harder to generate revenue If you factor in weapons too They’re probably giving up about 15% Even to capture the “gacha-fatigued” Hoyoverse players to incorporate them at the gacha system design level accepting a 15% revenue disadvantage isn’t an easy decision to make
(and there’s definitely no going back) Well done is all I can say Given the recent trend of moving away from gacha like Denalibi, NTE, and Project Mugen (I’m skeptical about these. Maybe another time) For latecomers to break into Hoyoverse territory I think this was ultimately a brilliant decision But to speak fairly I should mention this too Star Rail gives 5-star characters even top-tier ones like Dr. Ratio as free handouts fairly regularly And then there’s Epic If you spend through Epic Games Store you get a 20% point cashback campaign Star Rail participates in this but Wuwa has dropped out (though it recently came back temporarily) The degree of character power creep is much more gradual in Wuwa So even with those factors, overall monetization pressure I still judge Wuwa to be lower but if Epic conditions were equal the structure of “Wuwa advantage in pity and no off-banner” would be easier to understand and promote Kuro Games please consider this… That was differentiation point one: “Money” Second one “Graphics” Graphics Wuwa is the best!!! The best? Rather than the best super amazing and differentiated First of course the release dates are different so it’s nothing to be proud of, but I’d say it’s definitely better than Star Rail And even compared to ZZZ, which released around the same time it’s properly differentiated, right? ZZZ is truly amazing in its own way especially the graphics, or rather the motion and movement in cutscenes in terms of liveliness I think it surpasses Wuwa, but just looking at graphics alone ZZZ’s cartoon×pop style versus Wuwa’s photorealistic×anime style nicely stand shoulder to shoulder like “choose whichever you prefer” Moreover, enough to truly call it “differentiation” different vectors but both super amazing I think it’s reached a level on par with ZZZ This has become a high wall for later entries I really feel this when looking at games that came after I briefly mentioned other games in the monetization section but at least just looking at graphics is there enough impact to switch from Wuwa? In some cases, isn’t Wuwa still better? I thought This month (November 2025) Epic Games Japan hosted “Unreal Fest Tokyo 2025” an event where Wuwa developers presented on how they use Unreal Engine to achieve Wuwa’s beautiful graphics The content was super technical I didn’t understand a thing but I think it was about ray tracing With the version of UE Wuwa currently uses there were elements they couldn’t implement so they modified UE itself! They said some pretty crazy stuff
(like losing manufacturer support) That kind of dedication leads to the best graphics I was impressed Hoyoverse recently announced in development a photorealistic UE game (Varsapura) which also shifts away from Wuwa’s anime style In Wuwa’s field a game that directly tries to crush Wuwa probably won’t appear for a while, I think That was the “Graphics” differentiation Differentiation element three “Eroticism” Genshin and Star Rail are modest in eroticism, but Wuwa is sexy…
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…is not what I want to say Rather than “is sexy” at the very least they used eroticism as a hook well is the impression I got Initially it was sexy I mean, first of all the Trailblazer and Rover are already different Changli is super sexy Not just the visuals but the camera angles are lewd too Like Cantarella’s Companion Story I really thought hypnosis sex was about to start Start it Start it Start it I’ll refrain from details, but at least before and at Wuwa’s release they were quite “Uh, what?” putting promotion effort into those areas Using eroticism, one of the three basic desires, as a hook is a very strategic thing, I think And what I really want to talk about is from here Recently Wuwa from my perspective this is just how I see it, but toned down the eroticism… right? No, it’s still sexy Yeah, it’s sexy It’s sexy, but within the sexy realm it’s classy You know? From the beginning I didn’t think it was as much as NIKKE or Azur Lane but how should I say it has appeal, but the visuals are relatively acceptable to women too it’s become… or rather (fidgeting) Even at offline events for cosplay I heard there are quite detailed restrictions on expression Maybe I’ve just become desensitized “What are you talking about?” You might be thinking that but I’ll proceed with that premise for now This “Attract with eroticism then tone it down” I think this is really good A book I read recently had just this written in it It said online services and eroticism have been inseparable since the dawn of the internet For newly launched online services getting users to register has a super high barrier but if you add erotic content they’ll easily register I totally get that I mean I try to press the tiny 2mm × button in the top right of annoying pop-ups fail and get sent to another page or try to gently touch the tiny space between ads to swipe down fail and get sent to another page The reason I try so hard is because erotic content is dangling in front of me For example, on a My Number health insurance application page if ads like that appeared I’d smash the screen, right? But the book also said “Use eroticism as a catalyst then work steadily after” Like Snowbreak I introduced recently there’s the eroticism-focused route but if you lean that way only people like me erotic-obsessed humans will accept it and to put it bluntly, at that point you lose support from women, who make up half the planet So if the goal is dominance like Hoyoverse at some point, Wuwa should stop relying on eroticism as a gimmick …is what I always thought “Initially use eroticism to differentiate (from Hoyoverse) then tone it down” I thought this flow was smart and amazing… Well, that’s my upper body’s opinion My lower body is furious Hurry up and implement a Companion Story where she devours students in the disciplinary office is what I think I’ll leave that to pixiv Please do your best That’s it for “Eroticism” Money, Graphics, Eroticism I thought Wuwa was amazing I introduced three differentiation elements
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That’s the main part I think there are other details too For example, “Action” Since Wuwa was my first gacha game I thought modern gacha games have such high completion as action games and most of all player skill is required I thought, but ZZZ has relatively light skill requirements
(though it’s well-made in its own way) so I reconsidered that Wuwa is actually rare Like Star Rail where the outcome is mostly decided by preparation turn-based command battles feel unsatisfying I think it captures those people well And most importantly for factors affecting damage output not just “character stats” but adding “player skill” as a variable means Wuwa “if you try hard, even old characters can handle high difficulty” connects more easily to that which leads to a “sense of suppressed power creep” and thus the “sense of suppressed monetization pressure” I mentioned earlier I think it connects to that too That’s also a double strategic win, right? As for other differentiation elements “Story”? Star Rail’s story is really amazing but super complex I want to enjoy it with my brain turned off a bit more Wuwa is for those people… I guess Wait, is this just my impression from joining at Ver 2.2? Maybe initially they tried to go the same route Ver 1 is complex, so In any case, the initial intent is unclear, but just looking at the current state Wuwa’s story is often ridiculed in a negative context as “Gathering Wives” but Star Rail focuses on saving the world ZZZ’s focus is on relationships between agents After playing those, then playing Wuwa that simple structure isn’t bad either At least I felt it’s a differentiation element Also, rather than a differentiation element “The effort to fill in what’s differentiated is also amazing” I’ll forcefully mention this Wuwa’s UI improvement speed is insane too When compared to Star Rail and ZZZ fast travel operations when farming echoes including small details I think Wuwa wins in all UI aspects The only thing is when leveling characters in Star Rail the auto-conversion of materials from lower to higher tier is super convenient “This is overwhelmingly Star Rail” I thought, but Wuwa recently incorporated it Also, as an open-world destiny compared to ZZZ and Star Rail mob farming was a bit tedious in Wuwa but with Nightmare hunting it became smooth Well, fast travel and Nightmare hunting Soar movement (gliding flight) if you go too far with those then you get “What did we want to do with open world again?” It’s a difficult balance Wuwa has a photo-taking community so the benefit of open world having more photo spots still remains, I think Similar to the strong photo community in “FINAL FANTASY 14” if skins and emotes are enriched you could leverage that benefit even more But that’s a digression Wuwa’s differentiation elements Money, Graphics, Eroticism (Action) (Story) + Improvement speed to fill gaps is also good To forcefully summarize what I rambled about, it’s like this Of course, Kuro Games itself has amazing fundamental strength as a premise but it’s not just strong fundamentally they properly don’t fight on the same field But as I mentioned in the eroticism section not settling for a niche strategy steadily aiming for the top I thought they have that strategy so I introduced it One more thing at the end At the beginning of the video “Wuwa is insane” “(in both senses)” I said that and I’ve been praising Wuwa endlessly so conversely, elements where I thought Hoyoverse has an advantage
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I’ll introduce two First one “Characters living in that world feeling” That’s it Hard to put into words Both Star Rail and ZZZ characters aren’t moving according to a script but feel like they’re moving on their own Currently, Hoyoverse is several steps ahead in this impression I wonder why I think that Is it because there are more character interactions that don’t involve the protagonist? Is it because each character has their faction (sense of belonging)? Is it because characters appear across versions? Is it because they’re not all perfect like in Wuwa? In ZZZ, seeing the subordinates of Belobog Heavy Industries worrying about their boss made me think about this However, Wuwa also in recent versions had really great interactions with the Black Shores characters It’s clearly getting better, so I’m looking forward to the future Another strong point of Hoyoverse This can’t be helped, but it’s development speed I mean, Wuwa updating every 6 weeks already makes Kuro Games a crazy company FF14’s update cycle is once every 4 months But still, Hoyoverse maintaining the same update cycle for each title while announcing Petit Planet, Honkai: Nexus Anima, Varsapura, and other new titles is seriously insane In a previous interview they said they’re focusing on “industrialization and systematization of games” and that wasn’t just talk, I think Gacha games are a domain with strong first-mover advantage so what Kuro Games is currently working on like “Project NAMI” I’m just concerned whether that will get swept away But this is a matter of company resources so Kuro Games’ strategy is to make Wuwa the strongest game take users from Hoyoverse’s Genshin, Star Rail, ZZZ especially ZZZ probably peel off those existing users steal potential users’ attention even if not surpassing existing Hoyoverse games make them think “Wuwa is great, Kuro Games is amazing” and then while blocking later games with the next new title just like Hoyoverse games are played now for the reason “because it’s Hoyoverse” “because it’s Kuro Games that made Wuwa” become a huge hit for that reason I think that’s what they’re aiming for By the way, saying this might sound like I’m anti-Hoyoverse especially anti-ZZZ right now, but not at all That’s not the case In fact, I like them At least for now
(Currently at end of S1. I’ll make a review video when I catch up) Of course, to be honest generally speaking underdog victories are more exciting and also since I’ve received multiple sponsored deals from Wuwa I’m a bit more like “Go Kuro Games” I do think that But also to Hoyoverse with the intent to crush Kuro Games I want them to release god-tier updates and games because that way we users can experience more interesting games, I think Well, I’ll talk about that in another video This video will safely end with “praising Wuwa” Star Rail, ZZZ, and Wuwa players when comparing which game’s which elements do you like? Those who haven’t played did any title interest you? Please comment Currently I have review videos for Star Rail and Wuwa so if you’re interested, check the description
(ZZZ eventually too) I’ll keep making videos to enjoy Kuro Games and Hoyoverse If you enjoyed this, please subscribe to my channel Small topics that don’t become videos are on X. Please follow GG, Ienashi!

KURO GAMES(クロゲームズ)の鳴潮(Wuthering Waves)をプレイして中国ソシャゲの強さに分からされたので、
業界最大手であるmiHoYoのホヨバース作品いわゆるホヨバゲー、崩壊：スターレイル(Honkai: Star Rail)とゼンレスゾーンゼロ(Zenless Zone Zero)をプレイしたんですが、両方ともクソ面白い。
故にめいちょうのヤバさを再認識したので喋りました。
鳴潮はVer3.0で千咲(ちさ)と共にモーニエ、リンネーが待つラハイロイへ。スタレはVer4.0で新たな星へ。一体どうなってしまうんだ。
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00:00 はじめに
00:44 ホヨバ舐めてました
02:16 差別化①カネ
03:28 差別化②グラ
05:05 差別化③エロ
07:37 差別化その他
10:14 ホヨバが強いのは？

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